Red Screes and Middle Dodd from Ambleside in Lake District National Park

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Red Screes and Middle Dodd from Ambleside

A tough two-top circuit with red scree, bog and a summit tarn

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Length
14.2km
Time
5hr
Elev. change
694m
Difficulty
Challenging
  • Loop
  • Dogs allowed
  • High point 756 m
  • #64 of 265 in Lake District

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Ambleside and Stock Ghyll Force

Overview

About Red Screes and Middle Dodd from Ambleside

Why go

  • Two Wainwright summits and the Scandale approach
  • Red-stained scree, tarn and broad fell views

Heads up

  • Short off-path section and indistinct navigation
  • Rough bog, scree and dog-unfriendly stiles
Pick this if you want a varied, committing two-summit round with valley, crag and ridge in one loop. Skip it if you want a fully waymarked lowland walk with dry footing. The much shorter Red Screes ascent from Kirkstone Pass is a simpler and different outing, but it misses the Scandale approach and the full circuit.
Parkwolf’s verdictIs it the right walk for you

Map & elevation

The route

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Elevation62–756 m
TrailheadAmbleside Post Office and Tourist Information Centre54.43239, -2.96209
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Plan your hike

Before you go

Parking

Start at the Ambleside Post Office and Tourist Information Centre at the top of town. Parking options include the main car park above town on the A591 toward Rydal or Miller Field at the bottom end of Ambleside; walk to the town-centre start. The route begins at the centre, not at Kirkstone Pass.

Best time to go

Late spring to early autumn gives the daylight margin this route deserves, given the length and slow ground. Clear mornings and late afternoon give the best light: morning for the Scandale climb and the descent shadows, late afternoon for the Brothers Water and Ullswater outlooks from Middle Dodd and Red Screes.

Safety

The high route has steep, exposed ground close to crags and indistinct navigation in mist. Expect rough boulder and scree, peat and bog, plus a short off-path section to Middle Dodd. The southern ridge has ladder and step stiles without dog gates or bypasses. Keep dogs under close control around livestock and steep ground.

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  • ClosureChapel Stile footpath closed for retaining-wall riskPart of Footpath 543030 between Chapel Stile and Baysbrown campsite is closed because a retaining wall beside the path could collapse and material it supports could fall across the footpath.Official details
  • ClosureStanley Ghyll Lower Falls footpath closed for rockfallThe section of Footpath 408037 leading towards Stanley Ghyll Lower Falls is closed because severe rockfall damage has made the path unstable and further rockfall remains a danger.Official details
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Ambleside and Stock Ghyll Force
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“You're coming into Ambleside, where you can combine a stop for food and shops with a short walk to Stock Ghyll Force.”

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Trail guide

Hiking Red Screes and Middle Dodd from Ambleside

The shape of the dayThis is a circular 8.8-mile (14.

This is a circular 8.8-mile (14.2 km) loop from the centre of Ambleside, with 806 m of ascent and a realistic time of about 5 hours, or 4.5 to 6 hours if you stop for photos and lunch. It starts and finishes at the top of town by the post office and tourist information centre, so no shuttle or retracing is needed.

Sequence and payoffThe two-summit pairing is the point here: Middle Dodd gives the valley-head drama, Red Screes…

The two-summit pairing is the point here: Middle Dodd gives the valley-head drama, Red Screes gives the wide panorama.

  • Street start up North Road and Kirkstone Road, then Sweden Bridge Lane and a track into Scandale.
  • Follow Scandale Beck past cascades and through wetter ground near Scandale Bottom to Scandale Pass.
  • A short deliberate off-path traverse out to Middle Dodd, with big views down to Brothers Water, then back to the col.
  • The ridge above the crags to Red Screes, passing the summit tarn, trig point, cairns and windshelter.
  • Descent by the southern ridge over boggy Snarker Moss, across ladder and step stiles, joining The Struggle back into Ambleside.
Difficulty and footingRated 7/10.

Rated 7/10. The climbing is sustained rather than technical, with no technical climbing established, but expect rough, rocky ground:

Mist makes the navigation notably harder, especially on the off-path traverse and around the crag edge.

  • Very rough boulder and scree, peat, bog and steep grassy slopes.
  • Indistinct paths in places, with real map-and-compass demands.
  • A short section with no path at all on the way to Middle Dodd.
  • Some exposure near crags between Middle Dodd and Red Screes.
  • Rough, wet ground and repeated stiles on the lower southern ridge.
Scenery and landscapeViews open to Ambleside and Windermere on the way up and back, with Brothers Water, Ullswater…

Views open to Ambleside and Windermere on the way up and back, with Brothers Water, Ullswater and the Fairfield high ground from the tops. The red-stained scree that names the fell is the durable signature of the walk, alongside the small summit tarn and the dry-stone walls threading the lower slopes.

Access, parking and dogsPublic access throughout on rights of way.

Public access throughout on rights of way. Parking options include the main car park above Ambleside on the A591 toward Rydal, or Miller Field at the bottom of town, then a short walk to the town-centre start.

Dogs are allowed on the standard route, but keep them under close control around livestock and steep ground. Note that the stiles on the lower southern ridge have no dog gate or bypass, so a dog that cannot be lifted will struggle.

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